Wednesday, January 25, 2006

Mexican migrants to get US maps

Mexican migrants to get US maps A Mexican government agency is to issue some 70,000 maps marking main roads and water tanks for people wanting to cross illegally into the US.

The National Human Rights Commission says the maps will be aimed at cutting the death toll among migrants.

US advocates of tougher border controls have criticised the move, saying it will encourage illegal immigration.

Relations between the US and Mexico have cooled recently over US plans to build a fence on parts of the border.

The map plan is backed by Humane Borders, a US-based organisation which operates about 70 emergency water stations near the 3,200-km (2,000-mile) border.

Not helpful
Launching the project in Mexico City, officials from Mexico's Human Rights Commission (HRC) flatly denied they were trying to encourage greater migration.

"The only thing we are trying to do is warn them of the risks they face and where to get water, so they don't die," said Mauricio Farah of the HRC.

But a spokesman for the US homeland security department said maps would not improve safety for those trying to cross the border.

"It is not helpful for anyone, no matter how well intended they might be, to produce road maps that lead aliens into the desolate and dangerous areas along the border, and potentially invite criminal activity, human exploitation and personal risk," said Russ Knocke.

Each year thousands of Mexicans breach the frontier and attempt to cross the parched Sonoran Desert.

Some 500 died last year while making the journey, the HRC said.

Last year the Mexican government issued comic-book style pamphlets warning of the dangers of illegal migration, while also giving advice on how to stay safe.

Story from BBC NEWS: 2006/01/25 08:47:21 GMT© BBC MMVI

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At Wed Feb 01, 04:39:00 PM 2006, Blogger PlaidBaron said...

I heard about this and think it is an excellent idea. We need more border security. Unfortunatly I can't help much because I am a minor but I appreciate what you are doing here.

At Mon Apr 17, 07:11:00 AM 2006, Blogger womanspirit said...

I have a great deal of sympathy for the illegals - particulary those who are not of the criminal element within their own country. However - I resnt that these illegals are demanding citizenship now that they have numbers so large they feel they can bully their way in. This is unacceptable. I believe a great many of the illegals should be given serious consideration for legal status - however - a blanket amnsety is out of the question. But isn't all a moot point if the border is not secure?

At Sat Apr 22, 10:48:00 PM 2006, Blogger Trulyactivist said...

The fact is the none of the senators or other people know the story of each immigrant. I have parents that are immigrants and they have told me their story. Is the same as every immigrant of today. THEY WANT TO WORK!!!! When the Minutemen use 9/11 as an exuse for their presence, that for me is useless, is a false exuse. 9/11 happen because our government failed to see the warnings, and those that were responsible knew how to fly a plane and rode first class. These immigrants that come from Mexico and other Latin American countries barely know how to read. How can they inciate a plan to attack the America they want to work for. People don't face the reality that the economy would not be like it is now if it weren't for the labor of these people.

At Mon Apr 24, 12:12:00 AM 2006, Blogger Scott said...

We need to stop offering incentives that attract illegal immigrants in the first place.
No more free medical care.
If we get hurt or ill in Mexico and require medical intervention we are expected to pay for it before we leave the hospital. If you are unable to pay they will detain you and keep you in jail until you do pay!
No more welfare to illegal immigrants. That is asinine!
No more automatic citizenship to those born here from illegal immigrants.
No free education to illegal immigrants.
They need to know that they are not wanted here illegally.
Immigrants who want to come here need to meet basic requirements. They need to speak English, they must be able to support themselves and they need to pay taxes.
Our tax dollars are meant to benefit those who are here legally and not for those who are here illegally.
Also, it shouldn't be the responsibility of our government to accomodate the needs of those who immigrate here, it's their responsibility to adapt. We need to stop printing forms in all the languages anound the world and we need to stop paying for interpreters to help them communicate their needs.
I am going to boycott cinco de mayo and all mexican products until we get some cooperation out of them.

At Tue Apr 25, 01:02:00 PM 2006, Blogger Trulyactivist said...'s going to be interesting to see you boycott Cinco de Mayo...when in reality it wont really make the diffrence if you do or don't. People have to face reality..that diversity is here to stay and wont go away. You will have to probably kill each one. Immigrants may not have the ability to speak perfect English, but they do support themselves and pay taxes. They pay more that they receive from the government. Why so much hatred...this is not a one race nation, and it will never be again. I say stop viewing the world from your egocentric mentality and grasp the future. If you have a problem with printing forms in all languages I say your probably alone. Because it's not just spanish that its translated to, it's also Chinese, Catones, German, French, Arabic..among other languages. Diversity is what make United States unique, and instead of hating it we need to embrace every culture that we see. Look around you..look what hatred has brought. War, blood shed, death...what is it that working immigrants,not just from latin america, have to do to gain respect!

At Thu May 18, 12:42:00 AM 2006, Blogger Commo Chic said...

Trulyactivist, while I appreciate your right as (I will assume for this forum) a CITIZEN of the U.S. to share your opinion, your opinion is misguided! You posted twice in this string, and both posts contain errors.

For starters, the "story" of each ILLEGAL immigrant is irrelevant! Do you have any idea how many European immigrants, attempting to enter the U.S. legally, were turned away – sent back to their port of origin? Their stories didn’t matter, however the fact that for some reason they didn’t fit the minimum criteria set by the U.S. Government, did. PERIOD. Carrying disease was a biggie. Do we know if the ILLEGAL’S carry disease? Can we control their entry if they DO carry disease (contagious)? Are they criminals? Do they have sponsors? Do they have jobs lined up? ARE THEY GAINING ENTRY LEGALLY, and remaining in this country legally?

Question for you. Are you familiar with the MS-13 gang? Where did they originate? How do they enter this country? Do they enter this country in order to better themselves, or are their reasons strictly nefarious?

As far as 9/11 being a false excuse, it is an “excuse” because you choose to label it an excuse. Did you miss the news stories documenting terrorist plots to enter the U.S. via the open U.S./Mexican border? Have you seen the similarity in skin tone of Pakistanis, Saudis, Yemenis, Iraqis, and people from Central America? This is not an excuse… it is a very real threat.

Granted illegal aliens contribute to the economy, but not always in positive ways. How many U.S. business owners have lost business to rival companies which employ illegal immigrants at or below minimum wage? Small businesses, employing U.S. citizens or legal immigrants, practicing construction trades have been forced out of business because they cannot compete with the low bids offered by firms using only illegal workers. What happens when young people look for that first job, but cannot find one because illegals have taken all of the low paying jobs? Sure, illegals do many of the jobs U.S. citizens don’t want to do, but they also take most of the low paying entry level jobs from inexperienced citizens, and legal immigrants. The contribution to the economy made by ILLEGAL immigrants is not all win-win for CITIZENS and LEGAL immigrants, or the economy itself.

Wow, that was just my reply to your first post. Moving right along…

Scott had some valid points in his post. Why do U.S. citizens have to pay for the medical care of people who enter this SOVERIGN country illegally? Same question applies to education.

I too am a product of immigration… several generations ago. But listen, my ancestors had to meet minimum standards in order to gain entry… to get off of Ellis Island, and avoid being placed on a boat back to the old country. Once on U.S. soil, they were required to assimilate and learn the language. Have you ever heard the term MELTING POT society? The U.S. is a melting pot society. Yes, this country is made up of immigrants, except for the Native American’s, and all immigrants adopted the language of their new country. Mexico speaks Spanish. France speaks French. Germany speaks German. Saudi Arabia speaks Arabic. If you want to work in Mexico, you speak SPANISH. If you want to shop in France, you speak FRENCH. If an American travels to a foreign country and expects the citizens of the host country to accommodate them and speak English (in non-English societies), we are rude tourists. How can you expect to have a cohesive society if you have pockets of language rather than one language?

America became the great nation it is today because of immigration, and because immigrants wanted to belong, to become members of this society. A big part of that was adopting the language.

Again, I must point out; this issue is not about restricting immigration or bashing LEGAL immigrants. Estimates tell us there are 12 to 20 million ILLEGAL immigrants in this county. These people have invaded a sovereign nation, and are breaking the immigration LAWS of that nation. U.S territory is not / NOT an extension of Mexico just because the land is connected any more than Germany is a part of Russia.

I heard a gentleman comment to a reporter about the proposed fence on the news this evening. It was the most ridiculous statement I’ve heard… well next to the “Nobody is illegal” statement! Anyway, this guy likened a fence to the Berlin wall. I guess he fails to understand the difference. The Berlin wall divided a conquered city; it did not separate sovereign nations.

This isn’t about an egocentric view of the world. This is about enforcing the laws of this country, already in place; and, possibly keeping terrorists and criminals out of this country.

(Stepping down off the soapbox and putting it away for now)

At Thu Oct 26, 08:41:00 PM 2006, Blogger Lee Nading said...

Hooray for Bush deciding to get off the fence; as for Mexico telling the US what to do for decades, well...let them eat fence!

Lee Nading

At Fri Mar 09, 06:08:00 PM 2007, Blogger tracy said...

This country is built on immigrants,but it is not fair to legal citizens who get hosed when they need medical care or government assistance. I live in Texas and the school districts are going to mexico to find spanish speaking teachers instead of making the children learn english. They are making the principals learn spanish of loose their jobs. I have no problems with people coming to this country but they should have to do it the proper way. I also believe the men and women who protect our borders should be allowed to do so without having to go to prison.


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